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Banker Outreach Meetings - Orlando Conference Notes

 


 

Introduction

On June 11th the federal financial regulatory agencies convened a Bankers Outreach meeting under the leadership of interagency task force chairman John M. Reich, Vice Chairman, FDIC. This meeting was the first in a series of Banker Outreach meetings to be conducted throughout the United States. The purpose of the meetings is to obtain feedback from bankers on regulatory issues and legislation that represent a significant burden to their operations. As detailed elsewhere in this website, the Economic Growth and Regulatory Paperwork Reduction Act of 1996 (EGRPRA) requires the federal financial regulatory agencies to ask the public to identify areas of regulations that are outdated, unnecessary, or unduly burdensome. Through the Banker Outreach meetings, the regulators seek to open a dialogue between the banking and regulatory communities, with the goal of streamlining existing banking legislation and eliminating laws that have outlived their original purpose or no longer make sense in the current business environment.

Those participating in the Orlando meeting identified a number of regulations which they believe deserve scrutiny under EGRPRA. They also offered solutions.


Opening Remarks

Vice Chairman Reich opened the meeting in Orlando.  He recalled that earlier efforts to reduce regulatory burden had resulted in some success but that those efforts were largely driven by the regulatory agencies.  In contrast, EGRPRA requires the regulators to ask the public to help identify regulations that are outdated, unnecessary, or unduly burdensome.  He indicated that bankers now have an opportunity to share their comments through the EGRPRA process.  He advised that all of the federal financial regulators support the EGRPRA review and that key members of the Federal Reserve, OCC, OTS, and FDIC are participating in each of the Banker Outreach meetings.  Vice Chairman Reich expressed the hope that the effort would result in an approach that is more intelligent, more efficient and better suited to the time.


Don Saxon, Director, Office of Financial Regulation, Florida Department of Financial Services

After concluding his remarks, Vice Chairman Reich introduced Don Saxon, Director, Office of Financial Regulation, Florida Department of Financial Services.  Director Saxon outlined several activities initiated by his Office to reduce regulatory burden.  For example, his Office facilitated the electronic submission of call reports, enhanced the availability of electronic communication with the Office, streamlined the application process for branch offices and reduced certain fees.  Director Saxon also described educational efforts initiated by his Office, such as workshops targeted to board directors.  Director Saxon urged the federal authorities to consider initiatives such as those implemented by Florida and concluded his remarks by voicing support for the goals of EGRPRA.


Goals of EGRPRA 

Claude Rollin, EGRPRA Project Manager, provided an overview of the regulatory burden reduction process.  After summarizing the requirements of the statute, he described the process of categorizing the regulations.  He then referred to the regulations currently available for comment and encouraged the audience to submit comments through the EGRPRA website.  Mr. Rollin then outlined several topics for discussion during the breakout or Roundtable Discussion Groups but emphasized that the participants were free to raise any issues they wished to discuss. 


Panel Discussion

Following Mr. Rollin’s presentation, a panel featuring four of the region’s bankers discussed issues affecting the financial sector.  The panel was moderated by C. K. Lee, Special Advisor to the Chairman, FDIC.  The  panelists were:  (1) Mariano H. Fernández, Senior Vice President, Ocean Bank, Miami, Florida; (2) Keith Leibfried, President and Chief Executive Officer, First Federal Savings Bank of Florida, Live Oak, Florida; (3) Stephen L. Price, President and Chief Executive Officer, Florida Community Bank, Immokalee, Florida; and (4) James H. McKillop, III, President and Chief Executive Officer, Independent Banker’s Bank of Florida, Lake Mary, Florida.

Mr. Fernández outlined the impact of recent legislation on financial institutions, focusing his comments on the USA Patriot Act and the Bank Secrecy Act.  Mr. Leibfried discussed customer feedback based upon a poll of his employees and customers.  Mr. Price described the market impact of regulatory initiatives.  Mr. McKillop summarized approaches for attaining legislative goals.


Participant Comments

The Panelists and the individuals participating in the Roundtable Discussion Groups singled out a number of regulations for review.  Their concerns and comments are described below.   


1.  Bank Secrecy Act and Currency Transaction Reports

The participants agreed that regulations enacted pursuant to the Bank Secrecy Act and anti-money laundering legislation are the most burdensome regulations for the banking community.  One of the panelists captured many of the bankers’ concerns during his presentation.  He outlined the costs of filing Currency Transaction Reports (CTRs), including purchasing and updating software, allocating personnel resources to analyze transactions and file reports, and providing training.  He indicated that his institution spent approximately $120,000 to purchase supporting software and $85,000 to update instructional manuals.  He suggested that his institution was required to file approximately 24,000 CTRs during 2002.  He estimated the cost of filing each CTR at approximately $25.  Thus, he estimated the cost of filing CTRs during 2002 for his institution to be over $600,000.  The volume and costs experienced by his bank are not unique.  He referred to recent reports issued by the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FINCEN), including the report to Congress entitled Use of Currency Transaction Reports (October 2002), and noted that over 12 million CTRs had been filed during fiscal year 2002. 

The speaker emphasized that the banking community is eager to support law enforcement efforts.  He questioned whether CTRs are truly useful to the law enforcement community, however.  He referred to an article titled U.S. to Cut Bank Reports on Cash Deals, published in the Wall Street Journal on September 21, 1998.  The article stated that, during a three-year period, the IRS initiated fewer than 1,000 investigations based on CTRs and Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs), despite the filing of around 35 million CTRs.  Further, bankers do not receive feedback after they have filed the CTRs; the members of the audience could not recollect a time when they were contacted about the information provided in a CTR.  The audience cheered the speaker when he noted that searching for criminal activity through the use of CTRs is like searching for a needle in a haystack, and the government’s response is to pile on more hay. 

With regard to exemptions, the FINCEN report to Congress revealed that financial institutions do not always take advantage of certain exemptions.  The speaker suggested that banks are reluctant to rely on exemptions due to the difficulty of the requirements and the potentially severe penalties involved.  He recalled that one small bank was fined $80,000, which ate up two years of that bank’s earnings. 

Another panelist referred to the number of advisories issued by FINCEN and explained that banks have a difficult time keeping up with the watch lists generated by the government.  He urged the regulators to consider whether such lists were effective.  With regard to FINCEN Names Lists, the participants found that they were very costly, and both the FINCEN and OFAC lists have to be created internally.  A number of participants said that banks found  the OFAC list too inefficient to use and hence ineffective at stopping transactions by suspicious individuals.

The participants also pointed out that the costs of complying with these regulations hit small banks the hardest due to the software and staffing required.  For both small and large institutions, there is a great deal of confusion concerning the requirements pertaining to correspondent accounts.  For example, some institutions require their correspondents to sign affidavits, whereas others require a letter.  To avoid the requirements, such as site checks at the correspondent’s facilities, many institutions have closed out their accounts with foreign correspondents.  The result, bankers reported, is that "we’re cutting off our business ties with other countries," which may harm bankers in the long run.  The requirement to ensure that domestic correspondents have adequate policies and procedures related to their foreign correspondents is also unduly burdensome.


2.  USA Patriot Act "Know Your Customer" Requirements and Shifting Government’s  Costs of Law Enforcement and Investigation to the Private Sector.

The bankers are concerned about the evolving requirements of the USA Patriot Act and so called Know Your Customer (KYC) requirements.  They reported that customers, especially long-standing customers, are upset when forced to prove their identity.  The bankers feel it is a meaningless requirement since they know many of their customers.  They asked if the KYC requirements are truly effective in combating terrorism.  In addition, it is not clear what type of information is acceptable.  The participants also expressed concern that the identification and recordkeeping requirements of the USA Patriot Act could put them in jeopardy of violating anti-discrimination laws prohibiting the collection of data regarding customers.  They feel these laws force banks to assume the role of law enforcement.  They question whether this role is appropriate for banks and whether these regulations relate to the well being of their customers.

On a related subject, one of the panelists described the problems of cost-shifting when law enforcement officials file open-ended document requests.  He explained that when a bank customer is the target of a government investigation, the bank is subjected to document requests.  The costs of producing documents is often shifted to the bank.  Since the government does not bear the cost of document searches and production, the government has no incentive to focus its request.  For example, his institution once provided over 4,000 pages to law enforcement officials.  The investigator declined to set search parameters when asked to do so.  The panelist suggested that it is inappropriate for government to shift its costs to private industry.


3.  Regulation D and Limitations on Transfers and Withdrawals from  Money Market Deposit Accounts

Customers complain that the limitations on withdrawals imposed upon money market accounts are unduly restrictive.  Bankers believe the regulation is antiquated and serves no apparent purpose  Moreover, the current restrictions place banks at a competitive disadvantage with non-banks and credit unions.  Customers indicate that brokers did not impose similar limitations.  Participants also discussed eliminating rules restricting the payment of interest on certain deposit accounts.  Currently, the only option for banks is to offer "sweep repos," which sweep money from deposit accounts into repurchase agreements.  However, many banks, particularly small institutions, are unable to offer this product, and this places them at a competitive disadvantage.  The participants acknowledged that this issue may cause debate:  removing restrictions on interest payments will increase the cost of funds for banks.


4.  Home Mortgage Disclosure Act (HMDA) and Regulation C

The costs of software needed to comply with data collection and reporting requirements are high yet the data collected seems to have little utility.  Some bankers complained that examiners criticize them for making too many loans to high net worth individuals.  Some bankers reported that simple reporting errors lead to criticism and fines, even though the errors have nothing to do with the original intent of the law.


5.  Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) Regulations

To many participants, this regulation seemed unnecessary in an age of internet banking and national marketing.  It also creates a competitive disadvantage for banks in that brokers are not subject to the same regulatory requirements.  There needs to be greater parity between these institutions and banks.  In addition, the definitions distinguishing banks by size are no longer realistic in today’s market.  Moreover, the documentation burden created by CRA impacts small institutions more so than large institutions.  The level of documentation needed under the investment and service tests is also unduly burdensome.

The participants also raised concerns about niche banks.  For example, large contributions to nonprofit organizations typically do not qualify for consideration unless the bank can prove where and how the money was used.  The example given was of a bank in Florida, whose customers (over 95%) are foreign but, because the bank makes loans to foreign customers for the purchase of Florida real estate, it is subject to CRA.  Reportedly, the bank finds that in order to maintain a Satisfactory CRA rating, it must make loans to unqualified borrowers and these loans are almost always charged-off.  As a result, CRA becomes a cost of doing business.


6.  Expedited Funds Availability or Regulation CC

Many participants found that the current availability schedule for checks increases the loss exposure to banks.  For example, the shorter timeframe for making deposits from cashiers’ checks available can subject banks to greater risk of loss.  Also, the risk of loss is greater given today’s more sophisticated technology.  For example, it is easier to commit fraud by scanning signatures of bank officers on cashiers’ checks.  In order to protect themselves from fraud, some banks take advantage of extended holds.  However, the notices that must be sent to depositors for these types of holds are burdensome and people complain when they receive them.  The notices are especially burdensome for banks that do not have systems allowing them to give notices at the teller window and must, instead, mail the notices.  In other words, the process for providing the notices and the notices themselves are burdensome.  Some participants indicated that the rules were so burdensome and complex that they routinely made funds immediately available, and therefore ran a risk of loss.  Overall, the participants felt that the entire banking industry should not be held accountable for the abuses of the small number of institutions that caused Congress to impose Regulation CC.


7.  Truth in Lending or Regulation Z and RESPA

Overall, the bankers believe that the volume and complexity of documents required at closing are daunting and frustrating for the consumer.  The documents are not written in a manner to facilitate understanding.  The customer does not perceive these protections as beneficial to the customer.  The participants also expressed concern that the annual percentage rate (APR) disclosures are not being applied uniformly across the financial sector.  One speaker referred to popular car ads offering zero percent interest rates or a $1,000 rebate.  He suggested that the rebate might be tantamount to a finance charge so that the APR was not actually zero percent.  He contended that regulations governing credit must be applied uniformly across the financial sector so consumers understand the true costs of a loan.  Another speaker echoed the concern that the requirements put bankers, who are subject to regulatory scrutiny, at a competitive disadvantage. 


8.  Truth-in-Lending and the Right of Rescission

The participants knew of few, if any, instances when a customer exercised the right of rescission.  Moreover, many customers are upset when they have to wait three days for their loan proceeds.  The customers did not perceive the right of rescission as beneficial to them.  Occasionally the three-day period is miscalculated.  The participants felt that banks are not the abusers that created the need for this regulation.  The abusers are loan companies and non-banks that finance home improvements and door-to-door sales. 


9.  Extensions of Credit to Insiders and Regulation O

The participants said restrictions on lending to insiders forces directors and executive officers to bank elsewhere.  They strip the privacy of directors who wish to borrow from their institutions.  These restrictions also make it difficult to find directors willing to serve on bank boards.  Moreover, the participants believe regulators can monitor this type of activity using statistical analysis rather than imposing unwarranted restrictions on all directors and executive officers.  Overall, some felt the regulation was implemented due to the abuses of one individual and now the entire industry is paying for his abuses. 


10.  Flood Insurance and the Flood Disaster Protection Act

Bankers believe government has shifted the cost of enforcing flood insurance requirements to the banking system.  They think it is unnecessary to mandate flood insurance for commercial real estate loans since business people choosing to invest in a property are well equipped to determine if they need insurance.  In addition, the participants stated that a bank often does not need the improvements for collateral; the land provides sufficient collateral protection.


11.  Foreign Banking in General and Regulation K  

A foreign bank with a U.S. presence that has not been through a CCS determination must file a full application when it wants to convert an agency office to a branch office, just as a foreign bank seeking initial entry into the U.S. must do.  The participants believe that this is disparate treatment for banks whose ownership, management, and activities are subject to regulatory reporting and examination by the FRB.  Foreign banks with a U.S. presence that have been through a CCS determination may file a Notice of its intent to convert an agency office to a branch; however, the Notice is almost as lengthy and cumbersome as an application.  The bankers also suggested consumer regulations, such as RESPA, be reviewed to ensure they do not apply to isolated transactions by foreign banks not engaged in consumer transactions.

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