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National Consumer Organizations Outreach Meeting Notes
Washington, D.C. – July 20, 2005

 


 

Introduction

The federal banking agencies met with representatives of consumer and community organizations in Washington, D.C. on July 20, 2005. The purpose of the meeting was to obtain the organizations’ views regarding recent proposals to reduce regulatory burdens in the banking sector. The meeting was attended by representatives from the following organizations: Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), Center for Responsible Lending, Consumer Federation of America, Consumers Union, National Association for Consumer Advocates, National Community Reinvestment Coalition, National Consumer Law Center, and US Public Interest Research Group. Agency representatives from the FDIC, OCC, OTS, FRB, and NCUA also attended.

The meeting was held under the leadership of John M. Reich, Vice Chairman, FDIC. Vice Chairman Reich chairs the interagency regulatory review process mandated by the Economic Growth and Regulatory Paperwork Reduction Act of 1996 (EGRPRA). In preparation for the meeting, copies of the “Matrix of Financial Services Regulatory Relief Proposals” (the “Matrix”) dated July 8, 2005, and related materials were sent to the participants.

The EGRPRA Initiative

Congress enacted EGRPRA as part of an effort to minimize unnecessary government regulation consistent with safety and soundness, consumer protection, and other public policy goals. EGRPRA requires the federal banking agencies to categorize regulations by type; provide notice and solicit public comment; publish a summary of the comments received; submit a report to the Congress detailing the extent to which the burdens identified can be addressed by regulation or whether legislation is required; and eliminate outdated, unnecessary, or unduly burdensome regulations to the extent that such action is appropriate.

Consistent with the mandate of EGRPRA, the agencies have jointly published four interagency requests for comment in the Federal Register to date. The second interagency notice, published on January 20, 2004, sought public comment on the lending-related consumer protection regulations, which include Truth-in-Lending (Regulation Z), Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA), Home Mortgage Disclosure Act (HMDA), Fair Housing, Consumer Leasing, Flood Insurance and Unfair and Deceptive Acts and Practices. The third notice, published on July 20, 2004, sought public comment on remaining consumer protection regulations (which relate primarily to deposit accounts/relationships). In addition to soliciting comments by publishing requests in the Federal Register, the agencies initiated a series of outreach meetings with bankers and consumer group representatives. Prior to the July 20, 2005 meeting, the agencies held three outreach meetings for consumer and community groups. Those meetings were held in Washington, D.C., San Francisco, and Chicago.

Development of the Matrix

Vice Chairman Reich offered testimony before the Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, United States Senate on June 22, 2004. In his testimony he summarized the agencies’ regulatory burden relief efforts under EGRPRA. Aside from Vice Chairman Reich, 18 additional witnesses from other agencies, the banking sector, and consumer organizations, participated in the hearing. At the conclusion of the hearing, Senator Mike Crapo (ID) asked Vice Chairman Reich, as the leader of the interagency EGRPRA task force, to review the testimony presented at the hearing and extract the various regulatory burden reduction proposals offered by the witnesses.

In compliance with Senator Crapo’s request, a matrix reflecting a total of 136 burden reduction proposals was prepared. Thereafter, Vice Chairman Reich convened a meeting of banking industry representatives to review the matrix in an effort to determine which of these proposals they could all support as industry consensus items. This process yielded a list of 78 banking industry consensus items. The FDIC then reviewed the 78 banking industry consensus proposals and determined that it could affirmatively support 58 of the 78 industry consensus proposals. The FDIC shared its positions with the other Federal banking agencies in an effort to reach interagency consensus. The FRB, OCC, OTS and the FDIC agreed to support twelve of the banking industry consensus proposals. The results of these discussions were incorporated into the Matrix. The July 8th version of the Matrix lists 187 proposals.

On June 21, 2005, Vice Chairman Reich again appeared before the Senate Banking Committee to discuss community banking issues and regulatory burden. During the hearing, Senator Paul S. Sarbanes (MD) asked Vice Chairman Reich to take additional steps to assure that interested consumer and community groups were given an opportunity to fully share their views with the regulators. In response to Senator Sarbanes request, the federal banking agencies asked the representatives of the national consumer and community organizations to participate in the July 20, 2005, outreach meeting. The agencies plan to convene additional outreach meetings targeted to consumer and community groups outside of Washington, D. C. during 2005.

Opening Remarks

Vice Chairman Reich opened the meeting by thanking the organizations for attending. After briefly touching upon the goals of EGRPRA, he outlined the contributions typically made by community banks, such as civic leadership, charitable contributions, and local investment. In an effort to highlight the supportive role community banks play, Vice Chairman Reich recalled that he participated in community-service efforts throughout his banking career. For example, he served as Chairman of the Board of Trustees of a public hospital facility in Florida, as Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Sarasota Family YMCA, and as Board member for a number of civic organizations. He then outlined the challenges facing community banks, such as declining market share and deteriorating efficiency ratios. He shared his concern that the loss of community institutions could have a negative impact, not only on the communities they serve, but on the efforts many organizations are making to improve the lives of consumers and low- and moderate-income Americans. He closed his remarks by advising the participants that he hoped the fabric of community banking could be preserved.

Vice Chairman Reich then noted that the meeting was being held at the urging of Senator Sarbanes and was designed to obtain the views of consumer and community groups regarding proposals to reduce regulatory burden generated through the EGRPRA initiative. He indicated that the primary goal for the day was to obtain the community groups reaction to the proposals listed on the Matrix. He also called their attention to the list of proposals attached to the agenda. This list reflected the FDIC’s position on 24 items.

Robert W. Russell, Deputy to the Vice Chairman, suggested that the participants might want to focus their attention on the items that were most significant to community groups. He suggested that the community groups might want to take additional time to reflect upon the remaining proposals. He noted that the agencies hope to reach a final consensus by mid-September, however, and therefore asked the participants to share their views with the agencies within the next 30 days.

Mr. Allen J. Fishbein, Director for Housing and Credit Policy, Consumer Federation of America, responded to the Vice Chairman’s opening remarks on behalf of the organizations. He thanked Vice Chairman Reich for inviting the organizations to share their views. He acknowledged that the Vice Chairman was passionate about community banks. He suggested, however, that there had been an overemphasis on concerns of the banking sector. Referring to issues such as the current debate regarding preemption of state laws by federal banking authorities, he advised that the stakes are high for consumers. He cautioned that there are broad implications for consumers in many of the agencies proposals. He suggested that consumer protections must not be dictated by the size of an organization.

Mr. Fishbein then advised that the organizations had not yet completed their review of the Matrix. He indicated that there were 20-30 items that had not been included on the Matrix but that they hoped to discuss. Responding to concerns that the FDIC’s positions were already fixed, Vice Chairman Reich assured him that the FDIC was open to suggestions. Vice Chairman Reich invited the organizations to submit further comments in writing if they wished to do so, keeping in mind the goal of completing the review by mid-September.

Next, John Taylor, President and CEO, National Community Reinvestment Coalition, referred to the Vice Chairman’s comments concerning his meetings with residents of public housing units throughout Florida while working for U.S. Senator Connie Mack. Mr. Taylor advised that he too had first-hand experience of the challenges facing residents of the projects and economically depressed neighborhoods. He observed that these residents are able to leave the projects behind because of opportunities made available to them, suggesting that it was essential to increase the flow of private capital into traditionally underserved communities. In addition to protecting existing opportunities, however, he cautioned that it is essential to extend opportunities. He advised that the organizations support community banks; that the more banks there are, the more consumers can benefit from the resulting competition. He also referred to the growth of larger credit unions and expressed concern that they were not sufficiently serving their customers.

Discussion

Claude A. Rollin, Special Assistant to the Vice Chairman and EGRPRA Project Manager, then asked the participants how they would like to proceed. Mr. Travis Plunkett, Legislative Director, Consumer Federation of America, suggested that the participants first focus on the items that were “hot button” issues for the consumer and community organizations. Mr. Plunkett advised that the organizations had arrived at a consensus on some issues. Other items were still under review, though one or more of the organizations might have already developed a final position. The participants then turned their attention to the Matrix and discussed each of the items listed below. The numbering corresponds to the numbering on the Matrix.

6. Shorten the Post-Approval Waiting Period on Bank Mergers and Acquisitions Where There are No Adverse Affects on Competition.

The participants oppose this suggestion. They advised that, by shortening the waiting period, the public voice will be unnecessarily limited.

9. Check Cashing and Money Transfer Services Offered within the Field of Membership.

The participants support the proposal but with some reservations. They suggested that they needed to see a broader commitment from credit union to their communities. They indicated that credit unions should continue to focus on their primary mission - service to their members - even as credit unions seek de-regulation.

22. Privately Insured Credit Unions Authorized to Become Members of a Federal Home Loan Bank.

The participants indicated they had not reached a consensus but some of the organizations oppose the proposal. They are concerned that the proposal, if adopted, will encourage conversions.

26. Repealing State Opt-In Requirements for De Novo Branching.

Some of the participating organizations oppose this suggestion. They are concerned that it would materially reduce the roll of the state. They indicated that several states are studying the issue and it would be premature for the federal agencies to act.

28. Resolving Ambiguities in Federal Court Jurisdiction.

58. Clarifying Citizenship of Federal Savings Associations for Federal Court Jurisdiction.

184. Diversity Jurisdiction Amendments to the National Bank Act and the Home Owners’ Loan Act.

The participants oppose these suggestions. They advised that its effect would be to move thousands of foreclosure cases out of local courts and into federal courts. They pointed out that federal courts are already faced with a jammed docket. They suggested that consumers would suffer significant delays.

35. Repealing Obsolete References to the Main Place of Business of a National Bank.

The participants expressed concern that this proposal might have unanticipated consequences, such as rate exportation, which they oppose. The proposed language is more general that the current statutory language and, in their view, this results in a more subjective test.

42. Allocating Examiner Resources More Efficiently.

The participants oppose this suggestion primarily due to its effect on CRA exams. They believe it will hurt the opportunities of lower income people to access credit. They advised that, when a banking examiner comes into a small bank and asks questions, those questions really matter.

The banking agencies’ representatives clarified that this proposal was not intended to apply to CRA examinations. Rather, it applies to safety/soundness examinations only. A representative of the OCC suggested that, in any event, the proposal, if adopted, would be overridden by CRA statutory requirements.

68. Enhanced Examination Flexibility.

The organizations oppose this suggestion because it appears to weaken CRA. By doubling the exemption threshold, there would be fewer examinations. Fewer examinations result in less scrutiny by the regulatory agencies and compliance could slip.

A representative of the OCC then asked if the organizations would still oppose the suggestion if it did not apply to CRA. The organizations asked if that clarification could be captured in the proposed legislative language. Mr. Rollin reminded the group that, although draft legislative language had been e-mailed to the participants prior to the meeting, language had not been prepared for all of the proposals. The organizations indicated that they would re-visit their position if their concerns regarding CRA could be addressed.

62. Eliminate Requirement for Prior Written Consent to Establish Branches by Well-Managed, Well-Capitalized, Highly-Rated Institutions.

118. Branch Applications/Notices.

The organizations advised that they oppose these items. The CRA enforcement process is drafted onto the application procedure, they noted. By eliminating the prior-consent requirement, opportunities for review are eliminated and CRA enforcement is undercut. In response to a suggestion that the proposal contemplates stopping the application process if a protest is filed, the participants stated that the proposal does not make that clear. The group then discussed whether there was a way to reduce the application burden while protecting CRA. The organizations rejected a shorter comment period, advising that it was already difficult to prepare a response within the prescribed timeframe. Mr. Rollin noted that two other statutes came into play during the application process: the National Historic Preservation Act of 1966 and the National Environmental Policy Act of 1969. The banking agencies have adopted different approaches in implementing these statutes. He cautioned that any change to the application process must take these statutory requirements into account.

63. Eliminate Annual Privacy Notice Requirement for Institutions that Do Not Share Personal Information.

108. Privacy Notices.

134. Simplify Privacy Notice.

174. Replace GLBA’s Annual Privacy Disclosure Requirement with a Requirement for an Initial Disclosure and Subsequent Disclosure upon Material Change in Privacy Policy.

The participants strongly oppose these suggestions, which involve privacy issues. The organizations advised that the existing privacy notices provide important information to consumers. This information goes beyond privacy concerns alone and has forced banks to stop sharing customer information. For example, the information concerning the institutions’ affiliates is valuable information for a consumer. Moreover, existing regulations permit the consumer to “opt-out” and this option would be lost under the proposal. Finally, the proposal is not limited to small banks. The organizations advised that, as a general matter, they support shorter/simpler notices. At the same time, however, they believe it is not the appropriate time for congress to act on a new proposal, given the many rule-making initiatives that are already underway.

64. Waiver of the Three-Day Right of Rescission.

The organizations strongly oppose any changes to the right of rescission. They believe the right of rescission is a consumer’s most fundamental right. It deters predatory lending; it deters bait/switch schemes. It enables the consumer to protect the most precious asset he/she has: the family home. The organizations believe permitting consumers to waive their right of rescission is the same as having no right at all, especially in transactions involving real estate where a consumer is faced with a large volume of legal documents.

104. Truth in Lending Act Amendments.

Proposal 104(1)-(2) involve waiving the right to rescission. The organizations repeated their concern that it would threaten home ownership and encourage predatory lending. The agency representatives advised the organizations that bank customers almost never exercise the right of rescission. Indeed, bankers report that it is a source of frustration to their customers because they are forced to wait for their loan proceeds. Bankers report that their customers do not perceive it as a device to protect the consumer but as government intervention. The organizations responded that, if it is true bank customers never exercise the right of rescission, then it should not impose an undue burden on bankers. They emphasized that the right of rescission is a fundamental principle that should be preserved.

The participants then turned their attention to the suggestions in proposal 104 involving TIL amendments. They noted that the protections of TIL extend beyond the original lender to the assignee. These are important protections because most consumers are forced to deal with mortgage servicers who are far removed from the original lender. They find that bait and switch schemes are a big problem. They reported that consumers are under intense pressure to sign at closing.

They oppose granting even limited powers [to the FED] to waive TIL provisions. A FED representative advised that in 1989 the FED tried to carve out exceptions to the TIL. At that time, consumers were simply trying to get lower mortgage rates. Now, however, the market has changed and consumers are exposed to exotic mortgages. Thus, she suggested, it might not be possible to design precise language.

A FDIC representative suggested that bank/thrift customers are less likely to fall victim to predatory lending and that much of the bait and switch activity occurs at the level of unregulated mortgage brokers. He acknowledged that bankers get a great deal of business from mortgage brokers, however, and advised that the agencies were mindful of such concerns.

The organizations agree that there are too many exceptions to the TIL and find that creditors manipulate the exceptions in order to hide fees. They agree that the APR should be all inclusive.

75. Federal Preemption of State Regulation of Consumer Protection Practices.

The organizations support this proposal.

76. Consumer Rental Purchase Agreement Act of 2003.

The organizations oppose this suggestion. Various legislative proposals have been circulated, they said, and it appears the intent is to repeal state laws that protect consumers. They noted that rent-to-own agreements are costly for consumers and can be “a wolf in sheep’s clothing” if the consumer is not careful. They find that immigrants and individuals living on or near military bases are often targeted for these schemes. The organizations believe it is more appropriate to treat them as local transactions subject to state laws. Five states have enacted protective laws while 45 states have poor or no protections for the consumer. The organizations hope to convince more states to implement appropriate consumer protections.

77. Clarification of Scope of Applicable Rate Provision.

The organizations oppose this suggestion. They reported that the people of Arkansas have determined that there should be a usury limit and have passed one in their state Constitution. This suggestion would overrule the decision of the people of Arkansas.

79. Mortgage Servicer Exemption to FDCPA.

The organizations oppose this suggestion. Mortgage servicerers are collecting debts; consumers report a number of problems with mortgage servicers; the movement should be to extend protection, not cut it back.

91. Continuing Debt Collection Efforts.

The organizations oppose this suggestion. The consumer world be subjected to collection tactics even though the consumer’s 30-day protective period has not expired.

98. Extending Divestiture Period.

80. Elimination of RESPA Imprisonment Sanction.

The organizations have not developed final positions on the above items. They are continuing their review.

101. Industrial Loan Company Exemption.

The organizations support eliminating the exemption for industrial loan companies from regulation and supervision of the parent company as a bank holding company.

102. Community Reinvestment Act Amendments.

The organizations oppose this suggestion and applauded the FDIC for opposing it. They also urged parity among bank and thrift institutions.

105. Home Mortgage Disclosure Act Amendments.

The organizations oppose these suggestions. HMDA was adopted to facilitate the development of data, they said. This data forms the basis for a number of essential studies. Annual HMDA reporting is easy to complete thanks to readily-available electronic tools, they advised. Overall, they believe reducing the availability of HMDA analyses will undercut consumer opportunities.

109. Call Report Streamlining.

The organizations did not oppose this suggestion. They wish to see the legislative language, however, in order to confirm their understanding that the suggestion is limited to call report improvement/modernization.

110. Sarbanes-Oxley Act.

The Consumer Federation of America opposes this suggestion and plans to submit written comments at a later time.

112. Examination Cycle.

The organizations understand that this proposal will apply to CRA examinations as well as safety/soundness examination. They therefore repeated their concern that fewer examinations will undercut CRA compliance.

103. Tiered Regulation.

114. Expedited Funds Availability (Reg CC).

The organizations advised that they would need to see the legislative language before they could reach a final position on the above items.

115. Electronic Fund Transfer Act (Reg E).

The organizations oppose the first part of suggestions 115: increasing consumer liability for unauthorized transfers. They suggested that banks often accuse customers of giving out a PIN number and then refuse to assist the customer. They further believe that Reg Z and Reg E need to be reconciled. Under the current framework, debit cards do not have the same protection as credit cards. The organizations support the second part of suggestion 115: extend notification requirement to achieve consistency between Reg E and Reg DD.

127. Clarify Application of TILA to Bounce Loans.

128. Payday Lending.

129. Update TILA and the Consumer Leasing Act.

130. Expand Application of EFTA.

The above suggestions were received from National Consumer Law Center and the US Public Interest Research Group. Mr. Rollin asked the organizations if they had any legislative language supporting the suggestions. The organizations advised that they had developed text on some of the items and would share copies with the banking agencies.

135. Flexibility for Limited Purpose Credit Card Banks for CRA Compliance.

178. Enhanced Flexibility for Credit Card Banks to Meet CRA Obligations.

179. Public Welfare Investments by Credit Card Banks.

The organizations oppose these suggestions. They referred to the Change in Bank Control Act and suggested that opportunities for scrutiny were already limited.

136. Anti-tying Modernization Amendment.

The organizations have not developed a final position on this item. They are inclined to oppose it. They are concerned of a “slippery slope” effect and they are concerned that there appears to be disagreement between the FED and Treasury Department.

Conclusion

The organizations noted that the Bank Secrecy Act and USA Patriot Act added significant new burdens on the banking sector. In contrast, they said, CRA requirements have already been substantially streamlined. They suggested that the banking agencies should focus more on the burdens imposed by the BSA and the USA Patriot Act.

The organizations advised that they would submit written comments on the items just discussed. Additional information is also available in the testimony submitted jointly by the Consumer Federation of America and the National Consumer Law Center on behalf of their organizations and clients on June 21, 2005, before the Senate Banking Committee. http://banking.senate.gov

They noted that they had a number of proposals - some of them long-standing - and that they would like to submit these proposals for inclusion as a “mini-matrix” in the existing Matrix. Vice Chairman Reich reminded the participants that the focus of EGRPRA is on existing regulatory and statutory provisions but that their comm

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